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lunedì 30 aprile 2012

an interesting comment on Italy vs UK, RAE vs VQR from UK

Dear Mike,
The RAE and successors used a number of indicators together to come to the  final decision on the classification of the Department, or, these days, the individual before being aggregated into a departmental profile. In the early versions (this would be about 1985) it was a purely paper exercise where research income and type and number of publications were used and this was grossly unfair. In later versions each academic was asked to choose three publications during the assessment period and to say why they were significant. Departments were able to choose whether or not a particular academic was put into the process. If they weren't put in then there would be no research money attributed to them. Such academics had then to accept that their role in the Department would be in teaching and administration, releasing the time of research active staff. Unbelievably prior to the introduction of RAE this had never happened. Many such staff took early retirement. My own Department carefully allocated teaching on an equal basis irrespective of whether they did research or not. This meant some of us worked all hours and weekends. My second daughter Kathy told me recently told me that summer was when her father didn't work every weekend (and while watching TV). So the whole process should be seen as a way of Departments coming to terms with organising themselves in a way which allowed them to enter an upper grouping of Departments that receive a significant amount of money for research and, as a result, could employ more staff and have lighter teaching loads and a well equipped laboratory.
But the central subject committees eventually looked at a profile of data on each academic. Someone would agree to look at the three paper submitted and the commentary for each academic. They also looked at indicators of esteem - plenary lecture at world congresses etc. They now also look at overall management - the consistent development of research themes over many years.
The statistics you quote sound pretty dire and, of course, the purpose of the exercise is to expose such features for debate. It rather sound as if you have a lot of academics who might not be considered in the UK assessment. I suspect we are more of a debating academic society and a less hierarchical society that Italy. As a result the process may have different consequences.
Certainly they was a great deal of discussion of the way in which academics in different subjects contribute. In the English Department an academic I highly respected produced nothing in print until his early 30's when he published the definitive book on his subject - leading to one of the mani Chairs in English in the country. There is the problem of the academic who is going to produce the great book and persuades the University to fund his trips to Venice or somewhere equally pleasant each spring but it never appears. In Social Sciences, the PhD is usually the first book and can take years. The criteria published by the Higher Education Funding Council on the web discusses the criteria for groups of subjects and then these are interpretations within the panels in each subject. When I met up with people in Humanities over such issues, I had to keep reminding them that it was a peer revue system - ultimately by various roots the accessment was going to be made by people they knew only too well. They should get out more and demonstate their abilities - write short papers, go to conferences etc. They would often say that they would if I gave the Department more money but I reminded them that the logic of assessment means it works the other way around.
I point out that at least some of the figures you present for Italian Universities are not dissimilar to those of UK universities. I imagine, by the nature of things, you would find much the same if you looked at all US universities. All it tells you is that top flight research is concentrated in a proportion only of a nation's universities, while the rest prepare students for professional work etc, and their academics are equally hardworking and of value to society. In other words, you are producing figures that are worthless unless interpreted in terms of the structure of your higher education system and how it may differ from, say, the UK system.

Kindest regards
XXX

domenica 29 aprile 2012

Lettera sulla sperimentazione animale del Presidente Prof Bartoli


Illu.mo Sig.r Ministro,
Ill.mi Rettori,
Illu.mo Sig.r Presidente CRUI
Illu.mi Direttori dei Quotidiani,

scrivo a nome degli “Italianscientists” stimolato dal dibattito sulla sperimentazione animale.
Come Ricercatori Scientifici riteniamo doveroso ribadire con forza che la conoscenza biomedica è BASATA sulla sperimentazione animale. Questo tipo di sperimentazione deve essere considerato, come tutti gli altri, dagli alambicchi della chimica agli acceleratori lineari, ESPRESSIONE DELLA LIBERTA’ DI PENSIERO E DELLA LIBERTA’ DELL’UOMO.
Voler proibire la sperimentazione animale equivale al rogo dei libri di triste memoria: è manifestazione iconoclastica di intolleranza e disprezzo della libertà. Lascia allibiti che una delle più accese mani e chiome iconoclaste si autodefinisca appartenente alle “Libertà”, dove non vorrei che la parola magica fosse considerata limitata a quelle economiche, quando è scontato come queste non possano venire  disgiunte dalle altre.
Il pensiero scientifico, e la libertà della Scienza che ne deriva, sono fra le più alte espressioni della libertà dell’uomo, e devono essere preservate. La sperimentazione animale è regolamentata giustamente da Leggi, forse fin troppo onerose e restrittive, la inosservanza delle quali, lungi dall’ essere addotta a pretesto per ledere la libertà, va sanata applicando le sanzioni previste.
per tutti coloro che, a parole o nei fatti, sostengono che la civiltà sia nata dalla Libertà e dalla sua figlia prediletta, la Scienza, e che entrambe debbano progredire.
Per gli iconoclasti analfabeti di entrambi i sessi potrebbe comunque essere addotta,  oltre alla ragione forte, testé espressa, anche una considerazione debole, quanto sufficiente: sulla sperimentazione animale non risulta basata solo la Scienza, ma anche l’indotto economico della Scienza stessa, la ideazione-studio di nuovi farmaci, terapie, tecnologie, industrie. Bruciare sviluppo e lavoro tecnologicamente avanzati, a maggior ragione in momenti come l’attuale, per esercizio di follia (si può perdonare loro perché non sanno), o, assai peggio, per il voto della vecchia contessa o per una incoercibile smania di visibilità e protagonismo psico-politico nel peggio, non può né deve essere scusato.
L’argomento, addotto da alcuni, che la sperimentazione animale sia superata, oltre che falso, va ricondotto nell’alveo della libertà della Ricerca: stiano tranquilli, quando i Ricercatori ritengono superata una metodica, la abbandonano senza rimpianti. Che quello che si fa sull’animale possa essere mutuato da esperimenti simulati è fuorviante: la simulazione su computer (chi scrive ne ha esperienza diretta) è utilissima per programmare sperimentazioni animali ancor più informative ed efficaci, ma non le sostituisce.
Noi non vorremmo che gli iconoclasti mettessero a segno il colpo approfittando di un momento in cui i “tecnici” (che dovrebbero essere stati scelti per meriti scientifici) e i parlamentari (tra i quali sono presenti molti scienziati di valore) siano talmente distratti dall’economia da dimenticarsi della libertà.
Ettore Bartoli

sabato 28 aprile 2012

Il crollo di iscrizioni delle Università del SUD

Siccome si fa un gran parlare di numero studenti, di costo studente, e ci si sta muovendo verso un modello che tenga conto anche che il "costo-studente" sia paritario al Nord e al Sud, abbiamo voluto vedere i trends negli ultimi 4 anni. Fatto salvo che alcuni dati sembrano, nonostante ufficiali in quanto presi dall'anagrafe MIUR, piuttosto curiosi (probabilmente sono piu' veritieri quelli degli ultimissimi anni da quando e' entrato in funzione il sistema S3 che automatizza la trasmissione dei dati anche con codice fiscale, e quindi errori e omissioni, magari maliziose, non sono possibili), spiccano (a parte il crollo di alcune università telematiche), il calo del Politecnico di BARI, Roma Tor Vergata e Lib Univ Bolzano e Catania che avrebbe perso circa la metà degli studenti, e molte altre università del SUD nella fascia negativa.

Moltissime università sono nella fascia della "costanza" con un + o - 10%, dalla Parth. di Napoli, Marche, Ferrara, Napoli II, Bari, LIUC, Pisa, Genova, Brescia Verona, Camerino, Perugia, Cattolica, Pavia, S. Raffaele, Ca' Foscari, Bocconi, Torino, Luiss, Siena, BG, L'aquila, Padova, PoliMI, Milano, Modena, E-Campus.

Quindi nella fascia della vera crescita abbiamo TRENTO Roma "Foro Italico" IULM - MILANO BOLOGNA Politecnico di TORINO URBINO "Carlo Bo" ROMA TRE TUSCIA Telematica UniNettuno Stranieri REGGIO CALABRIA LUM CASAMASSIMA (BA) Stranieri di SIENA Telematica UNITELMA SAPIENZA.
 
Tenendo conto che globalmente si ha una diminuizione del 10% degli studenti del primo anno, questi dati sono preoccupanti (in ordine di "preoccupazione"!) per Telematica Cusano Telematica Giustino Fortunato Politecnico di BARI ROMA "Tor Vergata" Libera Università di BOLZANO CATANIA Telematica Leonardo Da Vinci Telematica Guglielmo Marconi PALERMO CATANZARO PARMA SALENTO BASILICATA VALLE D'AOSTA FOGGIA
MOLISE Suor Orsola Benincasa CASSINO e del Lazio Meridionale Mediterranea di REGGIO CALABRIA TERAMO della CALABRIA MESSINA FIRENZE

mentre sono molto incoraggianti per Scienze Gastronomiche Bocconi MILANO EUROPEA - ROMA TORINO LUISS "Guido Carli" - ROMA UDINE L'Orientale di NAPOLI PIEMONTE ORIENTALE LUSPIO SIENA Libera Univ. "Maria SS.Assunta" ROMA BERGAMO L'AQUILA PADOVA
Politecnico di MILANO Telematica e-Campus SANNIO di BENEVENTO MILANO - BICOCCA MODENA e REGGIO EMILIA Univ. "Campus Bio-Medico" ROMA MILANO CHIETI-PESCARA
TRENTO Roma "Foro Italico" IULM - MILANO BOLOGNA Politecnico di TORINO URBINO "Carlo Bo" ROMA TRE TUSCIA Telematica UniNettuno Stranieri REGGIO CALABRIA LUM CASAMASSIMA (BA) Stranieri di SIENA Telematica UNITELMA

Di seguito la tabella precisa.

Iscritti Al Primo Anno - per - Ateneo - Triennale



http://anagrafe.miur.it/php5/home.php
















Ateneo 11/12 10/11 09/10 08/09 var 4 anni %
Telematica Cusano  7 12 135 224 -96,88
Telematica Giustino Fortunato  11 13 15 43 -74,42
Politecnico di BARI  1311 1850 2546 3104 -57,76
ROMA "Tor Vergata"  7222 6712 7831 14031 -48,53
Libera Università di BOLZANO  424 826 866 804 -47,26
CATANIA  7131 6444 10730 12941 -44,90
Telematica Leonardo Da Vinci  50 53 81 89 -43,82
Telematica Guglielmo Marconi  1426 2755 2637 2292 -37,78
PALERMO  6154 7276 8331 9683 -36,45
CATANZARO  1306 1780 2173 2047 -36,20
PARMA  4093 5810 5594 6274 -34,76
SALENTO  3224 3746 3864 4781 -32,57
BASILICATA  1118 1235 1647 1639 -31,79
VALLE D'AOSTA  227 319 298 321 -29,28
FOGGIA  1879 2061 2265 2507 -25,05
MOLISE  1213 1494 1580 1610 -24,66
Suor Orsola Benincasa  1465 1843 1578 1926 -23,94
CASSINO e del Lazio Meridionale  1644 1776 2238 2129 -22,78
Mediterranea di REGGIO CALABRIA  961 1204 1300 1237 -22,31
TERAMO  713 851 951 915 -22,08
della CALABRIA  4442 4642 5476 5611 -20,83
MESSINA  4997 5419 5692 6265 -20,24
FIRENZE  8537 9767 9834 10703 -20,24
CAGLIARI  4432 4826 5099 5519 -19,70
SALERNO  4747 4813 5369 5900 -19,54
NAPOLI "Federico II"  13523 14077 15680 16595 -18,51
INSUBRIA  1874 2010 2423 2286 -18,02
Telematica Universitas Mercatorum  56 131 47 68 -17,65
SASSARI  2191 2338 2432 2648 -17,26
IUAV di VENEZIA  901 1120 1151 1083 -16,81
ROMA "La Sapienza"  26858 28387 29149 30883 -13,03
KORE ENNA  1514 1883 1790 1730 -12,49
TRIESTE  3097 3087 3554 3514 -11,87
MACERATA  1485 1576 1649 1672 -11,18
Parthenope di NAPOLI  3239 4038 3523 3616 -10,43
Politecnica delle MARCHE  2869 3058 3519 3195 -10,20
FERRARA  2530 2659 2912 2812 -10,03
Seconda Univ. NAPOLI  4094 4203 4698 4542 -9,86
BARI  8878 9743 9519 9822 -9,61
LIUC  261 243 273 285 -8,42
Stranieri DI PERUGIA  239 207 267 260 -8,08
PISA  7890 7945 8061 8559 -7,82
GENOVA  6881 7555 7635 7429 -7,38
BRESCIA  2735 2783 3166 2892 -5,43
VERONA  5198 6035 5699 5491 -5,34
CAMERINO  1002 925 887 1033 -3,00
PERUGIA  4594 4855 4781 4711 -2,48
Cattolica del Sacro Cuore  7582 7760 7851 7677 -1,24
PAVIA  3886 3822 3982 3934 -1,22
S. Raffaele MILANO  353 350 365 356 -0,84
Ca' Foscari di VENEZIA  4190 3746 4205 4224 -0,80
Scienze Gastronomiche  66 74 73 66 0,00
Bocconi MILANO  2368 2451 2347 2354 0,59
EUROPEA - ROMA  147 143 123 146 0,68
TORINO  11643 12367 12184 11530 0,98
LUISS "Guido Carli" - ROMA  849 871 866 837 1,43
UDINE  3473 3423 3537 3418 1,61
L'Orientale di NAPOLI  2183 1938 1954 2134 2,30
PIEMONTE ORIENTALE  2250 2248 2234 2193 2,60
LUSPIO  233 326 261 227 2,64
SIENA  3068 2751 2740 2980 2,95
Libera Univ. "Maria SS.Assunta" ROMA  964 1289 1156 932 3,43
BERGAMO  3366 3359 3365 3244 3,76
L'AQUILA  4691 4769 4047 4509 4,04
PADOVA  11389 11771 11838 10931 4,19
Politecnico di MILANO  8203 8092 8183 7867 4,27
Telematica e-Campus  1613 1912 2023 1518 6,26
SANNIO di BENEVENTO  1066 1123 1372 991 7,57
MILANO - BICOCCA  7245 7783 7211 6726 7,72
MODENA e REGGIO EMILIA  4300 4160 4381 3981 8,01
Univ. "Campus Bio-Medico" ROMA  251 283 231 230 9,13
MILANO  12513 12549 11923 11423 9,54
CHIETI-PESCARA  5397 5963 5679 4916 9,78
TRENTO  3112 3130 3076 2660 16,99
Roma "Foro Italico"  465 478 465 397 17,13
IULM - MILANO  1211 1155 1006 1027 17,92
BOLOGNA  14597 13953 12898 12269 18,97
Politecnico di TORINO  5879 4909 5255 4936 19,10
URBINO "Carlo Bo"  2755 2401 2447 2285 20,57
ROMA TRE  7593 7583 7049 6246 21,57
TUSCIA  1984 1491 1754 1597 24,23
Telematica UniNettuno  958 3368 882 688 39,24
Stranieri REGGIO CALABRIA  155 134 115 107 44,86
LUM CASAMASSIMA (BA)  175 169 139 106 65,09
Stranieri di SIENA  262 186 177 130 101,54
Telematica UNITELMA SAPIENZA  318 339 203 130 144,62

 
TOTALE 313396 331004 340542 349643 -10,37

venerdì 27 aprile 2012

Insufficient coverage of the Social Sciences and Humanities (SSH)

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Citation, Citation, Citation : Bibliometrics, the web and the Social Sciences and Humanities

Citation, Citation, Citation : la bibliométrie, Internet et les sciences humaines et sociales
Christine Kosmopoulos et Denise Pumain    http://cybergeo.revues.org/15463#text

Insufficient coverage of the Social Sciences and Humanities  (SSH)

16Each of the three existing large databases of citations of scientific literature has substantial gaps, which make it impossible to establish a pertinent assessment of researchers or journals (the impact factor) by means of bibliometric tools.
  • 6  Updated 1st July 2009.
17Although considered by some to be the standard citation database, the Web of Science has been criticized for many years for its bias against the SSH. It inventories some 8,700 international journals (there are an estimated 20,000 scientific journals in the world), but only 3,0006 for the SSH, almost all of which are of Anglo-Saxon origin. By way of example, the SSH journals supported by the CNRS do not appear in the WOS. In 2004, the CNRS tried to negotiate improvements with Thomson/ISI that would take into account specific European needs and particularities, but no progress has been made. A report by Philippe Jeannin on the evaluation of research in the SSH submitted in 2003 to the Ministry of Research and New Technologies confirms that French journals in these fields are not covered.
  • 7  http://www.esf.org
  • 8  http://www.obs-ost.fr
18With a view to providing a better analysis of European scientific production in the WOS, the European Scientific Foundation (ESF) launched a program to evaluate journals in the SSH, publishing in June 2007 an initial list called the European Reference Index for the Humanities (ERIH)7, which classes journals by rank (A, B, C). This list does not include certain research areas in the social sciences such as geography, which will become the subject of another classification. The ESF provides rulings concerning the integration of journals in this reference list, which explains why not all the journals supported by the CNRS figure in it. But if the ERIH does not have the vocation to be a bibliometric tool, and is not offered as an alternative to WOS, the Observateur des Sciences et des Techniques (OST), which has the specific mission to conceive and produce indicators about research and development, has announced that it will be working on impact indexes based on the journals inventoried by the ESF8.
  • 9  Updated 1st July 2009.
19The Scopus database (Elsevier) could be an alternative to the monopoly of Thomson. In fact, Scopus indexes around 17,000 titles, of which 2,850 are in the SSH, that is, twice as many as the WOS, and is not limited to Anglo-Saxon journals. The geographical distribution of the titles is 25% for the United Kingdom, (4,157 journals), only 25% for the rest of Europe/Middle-East/Africa, 37% for North America, 12% for Asia/Pacific, and 1% for South America. There is therefore much broader coverage than that offered by the WOS. Furthermore, the inquiries made to this Scopus base associated with the search engine Scirus yield a much wider range of results, because Scopus also includes other documents than the articles in the journals. The list of the sources of Scirus is indicated on the site. Unfortunately, the period covered by Scopus remains very limited (11 years). A comparative study of the WOS and Scopus9 for the disciplines in the SSH is currently underway under the direction of Christine Kosmopoulos.
20When all is said and done, with both databases the coverage of the publications in the journals, both from the perspective of the journals covered and of the length of time covered, is so incomplete as to give a biased representation of scientific production in the SSH, and therefore, cannot provide solid results for a bibliometric evaluation.
  • 10  http://urfist.univ-lyon1.fr/GoogleScholar.pdf
  • 11  http://www2.hawaii.edu/~jacso/extra/gs/
21Another advantage of Google Scholar, in addition to the free access it provides, is that it inventories all scientific literature without distinction: articles in journals, whether or not they have an editorial board, but also theses, books, extracts of books, reports, pre-prints, etc. Nevertheless, this specialized search engine presents other problems. Unlike the WOS or Scopus, it provides no information about the resources it uses. As Jean-Pierre Lardy indicates in his 2007 publication on the URFIST10 site, there is no list of commercial editors or the servers of the indexed archives, no information about the period covered, the volume, or even the countries involved. Certain known sources of Google Scholar, for example the bibliographical database Francis of the INIST, are not in conformity with bibliometric norms. There are also significant gaps in the coverage of publishers’ archives. A test with reference to important figures in the sciences confirms this observation, as Peter Jacso demonstrates11. For this database to become an incontestable reference for citations, it would need a significant and systematic overhaul.
  • 12  http://www.harzing.com/resources.htm#/pop_gs.htm
  • 13  http://www.harzing.com/
22Because of the opacity of the sources and the incomplete coverage (not all of the publications necessarily appear in the same journal), the information extracted by the tool Google Scholar and analysed by Anne-Will Harzing on her website12 cannot yet guarantee a reliable evaluation. Yet Harzing’s work does make a critical use of this database possible13. The truth is that at this stage, the tool known as “Google Scholar-Harzing” gives a much better account of the various forms of communication in the SSH than the WOS or Scopus. Furthermore, its chief advantage is that it makes it possible to intervene in calculations about the index, in selecting the publications that are considered to be truly indicative of the scientific activity of an author, eliminating publications by authors with the same name, and duplications or references that are not really pertinent, and in proposing a whole variety of indexes that correct the h index. In this way, the g index (Egghe’s g-index) is calculated on the same principle as index h, but gives more weight to frequently-cited articles. Another index (Individual h-index) corrects index h with the average number of authors per article, in order to make it possible to compare output between the disciplines in which the procedures for identifying the authors of an article are very different. A further feature of index h is its proper measuring according to the number of years of publishing activity of the author (Age-weighted citation rate), which entitles it to compare people who are in different phases of their scientific careers. Index h can also be calculated by assigning more weight to recent articles, giving a higher score to people who are still productive (Contemporary h-index).
23To the extent that the Google Scholar database provides better coverage for publications in the human and social sciences, especially books, it would undoubtedly be useful to undertake for each discipline and sub-discipline a systematic test of its different measurements. For that matter, A. W. Harzing encourages this on her site. The value of the indexes can be considerably enhanced by a better knowledge of the quality of their presentation of scientific values habitually recognized by peers. Indeed, in spite of reticence about their use and the imperfection of the existing databases, it is highly probable that the expansion of online publications and the ease with which they can be consulted will soon lead to the adoption of citation indexes in institutional procedures for the recruitment and assessment of researchers. Instead of allowing themselves to be obliged to use the considerably biased instruments of the Web of Science that are presently used for a number of the natural and life sciences, it would be in the interests of researchers in the human and social sciences to appropriate tools developed from a database that is more open to their publication practices. Certainly all these quantified measurements cannot provide a complete substitute for the more qualitative evaluation, partly subjective, but much more subtle and sure, represented by the classic assessment by peers. Even in experimental disciplines, in which, it is generally admitted, the number of citations reflects quite well the quality of the production of a scientist, and in which the classification of journals is systematically taken into account in publication strategies, the tools of bibliometry are objects of recurring criticism. In fact, it is the social practice of scientific citation that warrants a critical examination.

Conclusion: Thinking bibliometrics in the context of NTCIs

37The position of the social sciences in the systems of bibliometric analysis is not very secure, for reasons linked to differences in scientific practices, which are sometimes attributed to a presumed ‘delay’ on the part of these disciplines in relation to what has been set in place in the disciplines known as the ‘hard’ sciences, but which probably also derive from other factors, in particular, cultural and linguistic diversity, and the more rapid historical development of research subjects. These subjects are also related to ‘society’, implying strong interaction between the object of scientific investigation and the social context in which the object is investigated (Latour, 1996). For that matter, some base their rejection of all bibliometrics in the human sciences on this supposedly insurmountable difference between them and the ‘historical sciences’ (the expression is Jean-Claude Passeron’s, 1991).
38The development of collaborative tools, thanks to the second generation of the Internet (Web 2.0) and the movement of Free Access, and advances in the area of the internationalisation of the norms of exchange, offer new elements for reflection on bibliometrics in general, and open up perspectives for increasing the uses of bibliometrics in the human and social sciences. From now on, the technical means will make distribution possible, along with the sharing of scientific work at a low cost, and greater and greater access to resources, in particular via the OAI-PMH protocol or the RSS feed, with, as a result, an increase in the pool of citations, indispensable for arriving at solid analytical results. We can even imagine the formation of large new repositories or new databases that would combine existing databases (scientific search engines, open archives, libraries, etc.), as well as bibliographical references provided on the web pages of researchers. To this database of statistical information could even be added a directory based on peer opinion (Raan, 2003).
  • 34  http://opcit.eprints.org/
  • 35  http://citec.repec.org/
  • 36  http://repec.org/
  • 37  http://eprints.ecs.soton.ac.uk/13804/
39An experiment conducted between 1999 and 2002 by the Universities of Southampton, Cornell and arXiv.org, Open Citation Project34, came to the conclusion that research on rows of citations and the links between the references is one of the examples of the OAI services, encouraging researchers to post their work on institutional sites. The HAL database launched by the CCSD of the CNRS is clearly a part of this project, and could serve as a bibliometric tool. In the science of economics, the bibliometric database CitEc35 could also serve as an example to other disciplines in the social sciences.  It is based on RePec (Research Papers in Economics)36, in which 68 countries participate. The interesting contribution of Stevan Harnad in the 11 Annual Meeting of the International Society ofr Scientometrics and Informetrics, in Madrid, analyses the advantages of Open Access Scientometrics37.
  • 38  http://cordis.europa.eu/l
40Since the beginning of 2006, the CNRS has been conducting a large information campaign along these lines. The ESFRI (European Strategy Forum on Research Infrastructures) reflects on the new forms of evaluation of the SSH in the perspective of the 7th program-frame (7e Programme-Cadre) of European Union research38. The European Foundation for Science undertook the indexing and validation of lists of journals for each area of the human and social sciences, with a classification based on their reputation.
41It remains true that in the field of bibliometrics, as also for evaluation in general, trusting in a single indicator, however sophisticated, is an objective totally unsuited to what we know of the complexity of social systems, and that it would be advisable to set up not only batteries of indicators, but also multivarious methods for analyzing them and for preparing all decisions. Placing research in the network on a global scale thanks to electronic support and communication should cause the emergence of new forms of scientific evaluation, better harmonized, and of which the tools of bibliometry are only one aspect.


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JournalBase - A Comparative International Study of Scientific Journal Databases in the Social Sciences and the Humanities (SSH)

JournalBase. Une comparaison des bases de données scientifiques internationales en sciences humaines et sociales (SHS)
Michèle Dassa, Christine Kosmopoulos et Denise Pumain

Conclusion

53As with all the scientific disciplines, the SSH are drawing on more and more digital tools, whether it be for publishing, archiving, documentary research, or the analysis and processing of information that they produce and use. The visibility of scientific output, like the intra- and inter-disciplinary exchanges, are certainly facilitated and amplified by the documentary databases. The temptation is great for certain institutions also to use these for purposes of evaluation, even if this practice remains highly open to criticism, particularly in the area of the SSH. But whether we wish it or not, the bibliometric databases exist. It is therefore important to know their contents well, to be able to clarify the contours and the limits, even evaluate their use for evaluation!
54What emerges from our study is that no tool reflects appropriately the totality of the important journals of reference in SSH. The broadest coverage in terms of the number of journals, and in particular European journals, is without doubt that of ERIH, but ERIH is only concerned with the “Humanities”. The AERES list also offers a much wider range than the big commercial databases. It is worth noting that Scopus has announced the inclusion of several hundred journals in the Humanities in 2009 that are not taken into account in the present study, which was stopped at the end of 2008. An updating of the totality of the data will be carried out in the course of 2010. Nevertheless, from now on, the list established in this article, which we call JournalBase, constitutes the broadest list, because it lists without double counts and with exact identifiers the journals mentioned in each of the other databases.
55For lack of an exhaustive list of existing journals, it is not possible to measure exactly the degree to which the bibliometric databases for the journals of the SSH are representative. We do however obtain very different results according to the disciplines. Obviously, whatever the tool under consideration, the degrees of representation calculated according to the language and the publishing country reveal very strong biases, which reflect not so much gradients of scientific quality as relations of domination in the present world, of a political and cultural, even economic, order.
56These results lead us, therefore, to stress the importance of demonstrating more transparence as to the procedures and criteria of selection of the journals in the different tools, whether or not they are commercial, especially to limit the geographical and disciplinary biases that we have been able to observe in the course of this catalogue of the contents of the databases.
57Our objective from now on is to go forward in updating the 2009 JournalBase, and in the development of a collaborative platform that will include dynamic access to the database, in order to make possible an international watchfulness over this information. The publication in an open access journal that allows interactivity should likewise make it possible to create a space for debate backed by information, and a bibliography validated by the scientific community.

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 ringrazio tutti per l'attenzione. Tutte le osservazioni che abbiamo raccolto sono considerate da Gianni Cesareni, e da me. 

Vi sottolineo alcune cose, lungi da esaurire la vs curiosità :-

1) Finora tuttavia non abbiamo trovato grosse falle, e i dati sono anche confrontabili, come ci suggerisce Ponter, con la % di "inattivi" che fu trovata in UK da RAE2001 e RAE2008, che era intorno al 40%. Notate che in UK influiscono molto le teaching universities, e nel RAE i dipartimenti SCELGONO di non includere i soggetti con poco o niente di presentabile, che PERO' vengono gravati in seguito di maggiore teaching e administrative duties. 
http://italianscientists.blogspot.it/2012/04/comment-from-prof-alan-ponter-on-vqr.html
Cosa che da noi finora peraltro era vista come un vantaggio, perche' prendere corsi da dare poi al ricercatore faceva espandere il gruppo. 
Ponter dice anche cose interessanti sui colleghi umanisti.


2) supponendo di avere X inattivi, cosa ne facciamo? Nulla?  Anvur pubblichera' il loro numero, per es. come coloro che NON hanno messo i 3 lavori su VQR, o diremo che non lo hanno voluto fare?

3) a Celi, che parlava di abolizione valore legale, rispondo con la classifica delle Università in funzione del numero (in ordine crescente) di "improduttivi"
che sembra rispettare abbastanza bene la classifica fatta in precedenza per Hmedio docente, il che' dimostra che il dato è ben correlato. 
http://italianscientists.blogspot.it/2012/04/la-classifica-delle-universita-in.html

Naturalmente rimane la questione delle materie che hanno troppi "improduttivi", che potrebbero essere in parte falsi "improduttivi".  Ma guarda caso, le grandi Università di prestigio rimangono al vertice, anche se hanno molte facoltà umanistiche.  Rimane da vedere cosa verrà fuori con ANVUR e VQR.  Magari i dati coincideranno e allora sarà carino. Salta all'occhio tuttavia la discesa della Bocconi e della Normale di Pisa.  Come mai?

Notate che abbiamo ordinato per improduttività come H<3, cercando di "mimare" il fatto che VQR raccoglie 3 lavori per docente, e supponendo che almeno 3 lavori esistano, e che siano almeno citati 3 volte l'uno, abbiamo voluto dare una stima veloce.   In questo caso la media di improduttivi sale oltre il 52%.  Quindi con il dato VQR verremo smentiti.

A proposito, se fossimo una nazione seria, il dato VQR si dovrebbe già sapere, invece magari non si sapra' mai.

Per me, se X sono improduttivi, andrebbero caricati di maggiori crediti o altri incarichi.  Come mi ha scritto un fisico illustre:-

"when the dust will settle down magari poi troverte che all'estero le cose sono molto simili. Per esempio in Canada' solevamo dire e dimostrare che un 10 al 20 % di deadwood era sano se detto deadwood si dava da fare per la comunita' facendo piu' teaching degli altri (ma TUTTI dovevano insegnare) e svolgendo quellle mansioni in un dipartimento che richidono un accademico che conosce la ricerca ma non e; detto che sia un hot shot (esempio safety officer, director of undergrad education etc etc)"

In conclusione, noi parliamo di IMPRODUTTIVI o INATTIVI o DEADWOOD, ma solo in termini di Google Scholar (e probabilmente pure peggio per WOS - ISI e SCOPUS, che pero' non sono tecnicamente percorribili).  La discussione se un settore SSD volesse in teoria decidere internamente a se stesso cosa e' bene per il Paese e' anche interessante. Mi viene in mente il caso degli scienziati famosi della seconda guerra mondiale che lavoravano a salvarci dai Nazisti.  Quelli certo furono produttivi !   Ma temo che molti dei docenti italiani siano solo o oberati da troppa didattica e fusi, o ne approfittano per fare libera professione, o godersi la vita.


Saluti,MC

giovedì 26 aprile 2012

A comment from an english Prof. on VQR, RAE and our efforts in rankings


La classifica delle Università in funzione del numero (in ordine crescente) di "improduttivi"

La classifica delle Università in funzione del numero (in ordine crescente) di "improduttivi" sembra rispettare abbastanza bene la classifica fatta in precedenza per Hmedio docente, il che' dimostra che il dato è ben correlato.  Naturalmente rimane la questione delle materie che hanno troppi "improduttivi", che potrebbero essere in parte falsi "improduttivi".  Ma guarda caso, le grandi Università di prestigio rimangono al vertice, anche se hanno molte facoltà umanistiche.  Rimane da vedere cosa verrà fuori con ANVUR e VQR.  Magari i dati coincideranno e allora sarà carino.
Salta all'occhio tuttavia la discesa della Bocconi e della Normale di Pisa.  Come mai?
Notate che abbiamo ordinato per improduttività come H<3, cercando di "mimare" il fatto che VQR raccoglie 3 lavori per docente, e supponendo che almeno 3 lavori esistano, e che siano almeno citati 3 volte l'uno, abbiamo voluto dare una stima veloce.


Tab. 1 - Docenti totali, con h-index=0 e inferiore a 3 in Italia nel periodo 2004-2001 per Ateneo
rank Ateneo Docenti totali Docenti con H-index=0 % Docenti con H-index<3 %
1 SISSA - TRIESTE 63 3 4,8 5 7,9
2 Univ, Campus Bio-Medico ROMA 104 14 13,5 28 26,9
3 S, Raffaele MILANO 93 14 15,1 29 31,2
4 Politecnica delle MARCHE 532 78 14,7 187 35,2
5 S,ANNA di PISA 103 18 17,5 37 35,9
6 PADOVA 2.213 495 22,4 841 38,0
7 INSUBRIA 393 110 28,0 155 39,4
8 PISA 1.588 391 24,6 642 40,4
9 MODENA e REGGIO EMILIA 859 174 20,3 350 40,7
10 BRESCIA 566 139 24,6 231 40,8
11 FERRARA 645 175 27,1 268 41,6
12 MILANO 2.204 496 22,5 931 42,2
13 BOLOGNA 2.939 705 24,0 1.268 43,1
14 PARMA 992 254 25,6 432 43,5
15 PAVIA 1.029 274 26,6 455 44,2
16 NAPOLI Federico II 2.695 795 29,5 1.197 44,4
17 CATANZARO 230 66 28,7 103 44,8
18 CAMERINO 314 91 29,0 145 46,2
19 L AQUILA 603 153 25,4 283 46,9
20 Politecnico di TORINO 813 201 24,7 388 47,7
21 ROMA Tor Vergata 1.543 466 30,2 738 47,8
22 PERUGIA 1.177 374 31,8 578 49,1
23 SIENA 945 318 33,7 467 49,4
24 CATANIA 1.513 486 32,1 749 49,5
25 PIEMONTE ORIENTALE 399 131 32,8 199 49,9
26 Politecnico di MILANO 1.360 424 31,2 681 50,1
27 ROMA La Sapienza 4.244 1.395 32,9 2.162 50,9
28 SASSARI 664 219 33,0 339 51,1
29 MILANO-BICOCCA 922 266 28,9 472 51,2
30 TORINO 2.031 679 33,4 1.044 51,4
31 della CALABRIA 845 286 33,8 440 52,1
32 CAGLIARI 1.055 366 34,7 555 52,6
33 BARI 1.684 622 36,9 894 53,1
34 TRENTO 578 180 31,1 312 54,0
35 VERONA 737 280 38,0 398 54,0
36 MESSINA 1.278 431 33,7 691 54,1
37 TRIESTE 759 276 36,4 411 54,2
38 GENOVA 1.396 503 36,0 758 54,3
39 FIRENZE 2.059 718 34,9 1.130 54,9
40 PALERMO 1.799 633 35,2 1.003 55,8
41 UDINE 714 263 36,8 403 56,4
42 SANNIO di BENEVENTO 191 59 30,9 108 56,5
43 BASILICATA 311 97 31,2 177 56,9
44 Seconda Univ, NAPOLI 1.028 398 38,7 592 57,6
45 Bocconi MILANO 290 72 24,8 168 57,9
46 CHIETI-PESCARA 723 313 43,3 424 58,6
47 Scuola Normale Superiore di PISA 99 50 50,5 60 60,6
48 Politecnico di BARI 319 112 35,1 196 61,4
49 SALERNO 965 427 44,2 600 62,2
50 TUSCIA 301 124 41,2 188 62,5
51 FOGGIA 379 178 47,0 238 62,8
52 URBINO Carlo BO 412 227 55,1 276 67,0
53 Cattolica del Sacro Cuore 1.416 592 41,8 963 68,0
54 MOLISE 312 152 48,7 214 68,6
55 TERAMO 252 147 58,3 174 69,0
56 CASSINO 314 163 51,9 220 70,1
57 Mediterranea di REGGIO CALABRIA 292 154 52,7 209 71,6
58 Ca Foscari VENEZIA 508 251 49,4 365 71,9
59 SALENTO 685 392 57,2 530 77,4
60 Parthenope di NAPOLI 340 155 45,6 265 77,9
61 ROMA TRE 914 569 62,3 713 78,0
62 BERGAMO 333 162 48,6 260 78,1
63 Libera Universita di BOLZANO 128 69 53,9 102 79,7
64 I,U,S,S, - PAVIA 7 6 85,7 6 85,7
65 LUISS Guido Carli - ROMA 90 52 57,8 80 88,9
66 LIUC - CASTELLANZA 50 35 70,0 47 94,0
67 Universita IUAV di VENEZIA 170 142 83,5 161 94,7
68 MACERATA 311 247 79,4 295 94,9
69 IULM - MILANO 99 78 78,8 95 96,0
70 ROMA Foro Italico 56 44 78,6 54 96,4
71 Suor Orsola Benincasa - NAPOLI 85 76 89,4 82 96,5
72 VALLE D AOSTA 57 41 71,9 55 96,5
73 Libera Univ, Maria SS,Assunta-LUMSA - ROMA 85 67 78,8 83 97,6
74 UKE - Universita Kore di ENNA 94 83 88,3 92 97,9
75 EUROPEA di ROMA 49 48 98,0 49 100,0
76 L Orientale di NAPOLI 228 228 100,0 228 100,0
77 LUM Jean Monnet 39 36 92,3 39 100,0
78 LUSPIO 33 29 87,9 33 100,0
79 SCIENZE GASTRONOMICHE 12 10 83,3 12 100,0
80 Scuola IMT - LUCCA 16 16 100,0 16 100,0
81 Stranieri di PERUGIA 59 56 94,9 59 100,0
82 Stranieri di SIENA 45 41 91,1 45 100,0
83 Stranieri REGGIO CALABRIA 7 7 100,0 7 100,0
84 SUM - Ist, Italiano di SCIENZE UMANE FIRENZE 7 7 100,0 7 100,0
85 UNICUSANO - Telematica Roma 33 33 100,0 33 100,0
86 Univ, Telematica E-CAMPUS 57 57 100,0 57 100,0
87 Univ, Telematica GIUSTINO FORTUNATO 9 9 100,0 9 100,0
88 Univ, Telematica GUGLIELMO MARCONI 106 106 100,0 106 100,0
89 Univ, Telematica Internazionale UNINETTUNO 21 21 100,0 21 100,0
90 Univ, Telematica LEONARDO da VINCI 4 4 100,0 4 100,0
91 Univ, Telematica PEGASO 12 12 100,0 12 100,0
92 Univ, Telematica San Raffaele Roma 21 21 100,0 21 100,0
93 Univ, Telematica UNITELMA SAPIENZA 18 18 100,0 18 100,0
94 Univ, Telematica Universitas MERCATORUM 6 6 100,0 6 100,0

Totale complessivo 59.078 20.461 34,6 31.273 52,9

Fonte: elaborazioni su dati Scholar Search 2004-2010